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Ernest Lake Ridsdale

Ernest Lake Ridsdale

Male 1883 - 1972  (88 years)

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  • Name Ernest Lake Ridsdale 
    Born 31 Dec 1883  5 William St. - Skelton, Yorkshire, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • The birth of Ernest Lake Ridsdale was registered at Guisborough (North Riding, Yorkshire), Vol. 9d, p. 502, in the March Quarter 1884.
    Christened Aft 31 Dec 1883  Skelton, Yorkshire, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    All Saint's Parish Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland
    All Saint's Parish Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland
    All Saints Parish Church - Skelton-in-Cleveland
    All Saints Parish Church - Skelton-in-Cleveland
    Gender Male 
    1891 England Census 1891  Skelton, Yorkshire, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Skelton, District 7, pp. 8-99
      36 Back Lane
      John R Ridsdal Head M 34 Stone Mason Guisboro, Yorks
      Zelepah A " Wife M 33 Sutton Bridge, Lincoln
      ----- p. 9 -----
      William G Ridsdal Son 8 Scholar Skelton, Yorks
      Ernest L " Son 7 " " "
      Mable B " Dau 5 " " "
      Arthur E " Son 3 " "
    1901 England Census 1901  Saltburn-by-the-Sea, Yorkshire, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • District 8, pp. 41-42
      43 Milton Street
      George Lake Head Widr 70 Coachman Domestic Pinchback Lincolns.
      John R Ridsdale S-in-law M 44 Stone Mason Guisbro Yorks
      Zylpha A " Dau M 43 Long Sutton Lincoln
      William G " GrSon S 18 Postman New Skelton, Yorks
      ----- p. 42 -----
      Ernest L Ridsdale GrSon S 17 Railway Carriage Washer New Skelton, Yorks
      Mabel B " GrDau S 16 " "
      Arthur E " GrSon S 13 Old Skelton "
    Immigration 19 Oct 1907  New York City, New York Co., NY Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
      Source Citation: Year: 1907; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_1020; Line: 21, pp. 31-32 (p. 186).

      Ship: S. S. St. Paul
      From: Southampton, England
      Depart: 12 October 1907
      Arrive: New York, 19 October 1907
      Name: Ernest Ridsdale
      Age 24, Male, Single, Reads and Writes English
      Occupation: Footman
      Nationality: English
      Race: English
      Residence : England, Selbourne
      Name and Address of Nearest Relative: Father - John Ridsdale, Ruby St. Selbourne
      Final Destination: Conn, Greenwich
      Has ticket to final destination
      Paid for ticket himself.
      In possession of $50 or more
      First trip to United States
      Going to see: Friend - James Greenway, Kincraig House, Greenwich
      Not a polygamist, anarchist, not coming to work?, Good Health, not crippled
      5 foot, 9 inches tall, dark complexion, dark hair, gray eyes
      No marks of identification.
      Seems to have travelled with a Charles Robertson who is heading for same destination.
    Immigration 1909  from England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    1910 Census Apr 1910  Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Ward 11, ED 420, sheet 2A
      Elkins, Elizabeth V Head F W 65 Wd 9 9 PA NJ PA Own income
      ---, George P. Son M W 38 S PA PA PA "
      ---, Harry H. Son M W 34 S PA PA PA "
      ---, Louise B Dau F W 30 S PA PA PA "
      Fraser, Ella M Dau F W 40 Wd 2 0 PA PA PA "
      Ridsdale, Ernest Servant M W 26 S Eng Eng Eng 1906 Al Butler - Private family
      Toal, Mary Servant F W 25 S Ire Ire Ire 1908 Servant "
      Lydon, Katherine Servant F W 35 S Ire Ire Ire 1888 Cook "
    Naturalization 31 Mar 1915  Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    U. S. District Court 
    WWI Draft Registration 10 Sep 1918  Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
      Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls.

      Ernest Lake Ridsdale
      Age 34, born Dec 31 1883, white, naturalized citizen
      Address : 719 Filbert St., Pittsburgh, PA
      Occupation: Butler for A. W. Mellon, Woodland Rd., Pittsburgh.
      Nearest Relative: Louise Hilma Ridsdale, 719 Filbert St., Pittsburgh
      Medium Height and Build; Gray Eyes, Dark hair.
    Travel 16 May 1938  New York City, New York Co., NY Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Return from England 
    • He travelled on the S. S. Normandie from Southampton, England, leaving 11 May 1938, and arriving in New York City on 16 May 1938. He was listed as Naturizalized by US. District COurt, Pittsburgh, PA, March 31st 1915. His address in US was Woodland Road, Pittsburgh. Passport 493055.
    WWII Draft Registrations 1942  New York City, New York Co., NY Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
      Name: Ernest Lake Ridsdale
      Residence and Mailing Address: 125 E. 70 St., NY, NY, NY
      Telephone: Bu8-4715
      Birth Date: 31 Dec 1883; Age 58
      Birth: Skelton Saltburn, England
      Name and Address of Person who will always know your address: Mr. Paul Mellon, Upperville, VA
      Employer: Mr. Paul Mellon, Upperville, VA
      Occupation: Butler, 125 E. 70 St., NY
      Race: White
      Roll: WW2_2368562
      Serial Number: U1864
      Source Citation: Roll: WW2_2368562; Local board: New York , New York.

      Source Information:
      Ancestry.com. U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: United States, Selective Service System. Selective Service Registration Cards, World War II: Fourth Registration. National Archives and Records Administration Branch locations: National Archives and Records Administration Region Branches.
    Died 8 May 1972  Stamford, Fairfield Co., CT Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Social Security Death Index:
      Ernest Ridsdale
      Birth Date: 31 Dec 1882
      Death Date: May 1972
      Last Residence: Pelham, Westchester Co., NY 10803
      Issued: Pennsylvania (before 1951)
    Buried Aft 8 May 1972  Valhalla Cemetery - Valhalla, Westchester Co., NY Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I1066  Lisle Family of Franklin County, Ohio
    Last Modified 2 Jul 2007 

    Family Hilma Louisa Korp,   b. 21 Aug 1882, Worcester, Worcester Co., MA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Nov 1973, Stamford, Fairfield Co., CT Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 91 years) 
    Married 28 Jul 1915  Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. John Bulmer Ridsdale,   b. 9 Jul 1916, McKeesport, Allegheny Co., PA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Jul 1916, McKeesport, Allegheny Co., PA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     2. Dorothy Louise Ridsdale,   b. 7 Oct 1918, Homoeopathic Hospital - Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Aug 1989, St. Anthony's Hospital - Denver, Denver Co., CO Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
    Last Modified 14 Mar 2004 
    Family ID F444  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 31 Dec 1883 - 5 William St. - Skelton, Yorkshire, England, UK Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsImmigration - 19 Oct 1907 - New York City, New York Co., NY Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google Maps1910 Census - Apr 1910 - Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsNaturalization - U. S. District Court - 31 Mar 1915 - Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 28 Jul 1915 - Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsWWI Draft Registration - 10 Sep 1918 - Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., PA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsTravel - Return from England - 16 May 1938 - New York City, New York Co., NY Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsWWII Draft Registrations - 1942 - New York City, New York Co., NY Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 8 May 1972 - Stamford, Fairfield Co., CT Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - Aft 8 May 1972 - Valhalla Cemetery - Valhalla, Westchester Co., NY Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    All Saints Parish Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland, Yorkshire, England - Disused
    All Saints Parish Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland, Yorkshire, England - Disused

  • Notes 
    • ERNEST LAKE RIDSDALE

      BIRTH:

      Ernest was born at his parent's home at 5 William St., New Skelton, Skelton, North Yorkshire.

      One of the little family mysteries which I have solved in doing these researches deals with the Ernest's birth. Ernest was about a year and a half younger than his wife Louise, but, as that was unfashionable, some question existed as to their dates of birth. The wrong years are on their gravestones! I have a copy of Ernest's birth certifcate, and I have seen the record of Louise's.

      Also, we were always given to understand that Ernest was born in the town of Saltburn-by-the-Sea in North Yorkshire. Ernest had a painting of a cottage near Cat Nab Hill in Saltburn which we were led to believe was his birthplace. Ossie Ridsdale believed that Ernest must have been born in the same house as his father. Ernest's birth certificate confirms Ossie's theory. Ossie also proposed why the confusion may have existed: the postal area for Skelton is and was Saltburn!

      BAPTISM:

      Ernest was probably baptised at the parish church in Skelton although I do not have any records for it.

      CONFIRMATION:

      Ernest was probably confirmed at the parish church in Skelton although I do not have any records for it. He told me that when he was confirmed he was required to memorize large parts of the Book of Common Prayer. Even when he was in his 70s, he could recite the Collects from memory.

      IMMIGRATION:

      According to what I was told, Ernest came to the U.S. in 1907 for a visit. He returned to England and then emigrated for good in 1909 and settled in Pittsburgh. I found him in the 1910 census working as a butler in Pittsburgh for Mrs. Elizabeth Ellerns of 809 N. Highland Ave. At the time, he gave as his year of immigration as 1906. I have since heard from family in England that the reason he left England concerned some unhappy love affair!

      MARRIAGE:

      He met Louise Korp in Pittsburgh, and they married about July 1915. I have not yet found the details of this marriage although it is likely to have taken place at the Swedish Methodist Episcopal Church on Jennie Lind St. in McKeesport.

      HOMES:

      The Ridsdales first child John Bulmer Ridsdale was born and died on 6 July 1916. I was named in memory of this child.

      My mother, Dorothy Louise Ridsdale, was born in October 1918, towards the end of World War I. On her birth certificate, the Ridsdales were listed as living at 719 Filbert St. in Pittsburg. Ernest was listed as an inspector at the aircraft department.

      Sometime during this period, Ernest came to the attention of the Mellon family and Andrew Mellon. He worked for the Mellons in Pittsburg up though 1940 or so. In addition to managing the house, he travelled to Europe with Mr. Mellon on several occasions. On at least one of these trips, he was able to visit his family in England. We have a photograph taken in the late 1920s of Ernest, his brothers William and Arthur and their wives, and their father John Robert Ridsdale.

      The Ridsdales used to vacation in Atlantic City, New Jersey, throughout their time in Pittsburgh and afterwards in New York. My mother used to hate it. They were forever buying jewelry on these trips. On most occasions, they did not get what they expected. I was given a lovely star sapphire and diamond ring, which they got at an auction there, for an engagement ring for Carolyn. At that time we discovered that the star sapphire was a fake.

      About 1940 the Ridsdales moved to New York City and lived at 125 E. 70th St. They lived there until 1950 when they moved to New Rochelle with the Lisles.

      About 1953 or so, Ernest's brother Arthur and his wife Jennie visited from England. I remember going with them on the New York Subway to Coney Island Amusement Park for a day. I got sick with the mumps after the visit!

      When the Lisles left Eastchester Road for Pelham in September 1956, the Ridsdales took an apartment about half a mile away near the Pelham Country Club. About 1958 or so was when I got interested in my family's history and it was about this time when I "interviewed" the Ridsdales on their families. I still have these original notes, and they formed my starting point in my research.

      About 1963, Ernest had a severe stroke that nearly killed him. After he was hospitalized for some time, it became necessary for him to have regular nursing care. We discovered during this period that Louise was by no means fit enough to provide any care. So the family found a very nice nursing home for them to live in Stamford, Connecticut. Ernest still tried to get about. He had another serious stroke in 1965 after returning from a drive to visit Diane at her school in Connecticut.

      Always a gentleman to the end, he died in May 1972. He was in bed at the home and asked for some medicine, took it and said that he was going to take a little nap. He died peacefully in that nap.

      He was buried in Valhalla Cemetery in Vahalla, New York.

      I remember that Ernest always maintained his "broad Yorkshire accent". He was a man of somewhat stout build, a bit under 6 feet in height, a full head of gray hair which he combed straight back. He smoked cigarettes, at least up until his stroke in the 1960s.

      Ernest enjoyed horse racing. As a younger man, he used to go to the race track every so often. When we lived in the suburbs, he was inclined to read about it in the New York Daily Mirror and place a few bets with a local bookie. Such behaviour did not sit well with the somewhat straight-laced Herb Lisle! He tried to get Ernest to stop, but I do not think he ever did until his stroke.

      But Ernest was always the gentleman. I do not think he ever left home without wearing a tie and jacket. He slowed down as he got in his 70s, but I still remember him with vigor.

      --- John Bulmer Lisle, 1990
      ____________

      RELIGION: Anglican; Protestant Episcopal
      RESIDENCES: England;PA;NY;CT